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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2005, 06:11:06 PM »
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At Wolseley Barracks in London the alert message came in on a Saturday afternoon in October (the date escapes me now).  B Company, 1 RCR was the rear party for the battalion which was returning from Cyprus, chalk by chalk that very weekend.  B Company was recalled on Saturday evening and on arrival at Wolseley Barracks a warning order for a move was passed.  There was a festive air in the camp as there were welcome home parties in the messes to greet the troops just getting back from Cyprus.  The people in B Company soon knew that something real was in the air as usually hard to get stores were issued freely.  Flashlights, batteries and field message pads were handed out generously.  The bartender in the officer's mess was summoned to join the company.  He reported in a white shirt and bow tie and said he would have to go home to get his gear.  He was directed to the QM stores and staggered out carrying a kit bag, combat uniforms, boots and web gear.  He went to a barrack block and shucked his bartenders rig and reported for duty within half an hour.  At midnight the base commander, Lcol C.D. Simpson and the base sergeant major, MWO Buzz Girden watched as the vehicles of B Company, 1 RCR rolled out.  A long convoy move along Highway 401 went on all night and before dawn the trucks rolled into CFB Trenton.  The troops were directed to the air force mess hall, not yet open, to get breakfast.  At 6 a.m bemused air force types on early shift picked their way over the sleeping bodies of one hundred infantrymen in the foyer of the mess hall.  With all ranks awakened the troops of 1 RCR enjoyed a good breakfast.  Part one of the story ends here.  More later. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2005, 02:00:29 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2005, 08:31:58 PM »
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Ken, I complete agree with you in regards to the establishment of a medal for Canadian Soldiers who served in the FLQ crisis of which was a Terrorist Organization and cased the death of Pierre La Point and the kidnapping of Robert Cross of the British Consulate in Montreal,PQ! Not to mention other bombings in the Montreal area during Quebec's "quiet revulotion" Angry

My Father served during the FLQ crisis and it was a not an honable time in Canada's history but it happened so we most not forget about it's actions nor it's impressions it made on Canada's political establishment!!!!

Odd how when it comes to creating a bill(C-514 SSM-DO) to give our soldiers a "possible" medal for domestic opertions on Canadian soil for humaturian reasons but tend to "forget" about other operations that fall under this sceptrum ie FLQ crisis or Oka 1990 comes to mind etc,.

My father was in the 1st Battalion RCR during this period and spent 3 weeks in Ottawa region and was on Night patrols etc and were camped at RCAF Station Rockcliffe in Oct 1970!

Anyhow, I support your idea of this medal though I doubt it will bare fruit....due to "politically correct" 
reasons etc Shocked

BTW: I was born in Soest West-Germany in 1967 and my dad was stationed at Fort York.

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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2005, 08:43:42 AM »
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Quebecers tried and failled, now we have other ethnic groups who are taking over this country by claiming that   Merry Christmas goes against there believes,  This is our country and we served to presere it as a Free Country.  Those who came here for that reason should remember they are also free to leave.   I once again agee  Canada should recognise that The War Measures Act was evoked and issue a medal to those who served there,  If for no other reason than to have people question us as to WHATS THAT MEDAL FOR.    Pro Patria  Ken.
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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2005, 09:22:34 AM »
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With what is going on again in Quebec and Another looming Referendum promised by the new PQ leader, one must really stop and think. It would seem to me, no matter who wins the election, that a national campaign to thank thousands of soldiers from Quebec and the rest of the country, for having saved Canada from Separation in its time of need, would be far cheaper and as positive a Federal Campaign as could possibly be done. Government has to start to think outside the box and instead of big costs Media Campaigns they need small public interest stories. Soldiers vote even in Quebec and so do their families and friends. But most of all it would hurt to thank the people that keep this country together.

Almost forgot: Merry Christmas.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2006, 12:19:04 PM »
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Just a short one to keep it going I pesonally don't think there is a political party in Canada with the guts to give out a metal for that one [and I was there to]shovelling snow and filling sand bags sure, but not defending Canada .It's not a matter of one more gong to hang on our chest it's a matter of reconizing a important event in Canadain history in which the forces played a role ,which is what metals a given out for after all .So after the election and my party gets the armed troops in all the cities so the general population can't rebel against the Idea I'l bring it up with Steven the next time I see him ,Honest I will I promise, X my heart. Happy Trails Larry
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2006, 03:38:57 PM »
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I look at it more of an idea to win the hearts of the Quebecers over to the Federal side. It wouldn’t hurt to have 10 or more thousand people walking around with a medal for helping Quebec remain free and in Canada. There would be at least 3000 Quebecers to be presented with that medal and that could be done the year of any or the next Referendum in Quebec about separation.

If the Feds make a big deal of it, there would be lots of love for Canada flowing all around.

And it sure beats paying hundreds of millions for ads that we never get.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2007, 12:40:56 PM »
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Didnt Ms`Macdounagh's proposal die? While we are in this vein, howzabout a bar to the NATO gong for those that served as part of the AMF contingent(s). On to other things, any one having stories/reminiscences/pix of the FLQ thing (Oct 16 '70 to aprox 20 Dec '70) and is interesting in sharing, please email them to me and if enough interest exists, I'll try to cobble them together into a logical format. A sort of oral history of events that most Canadians have forgotten or choose to ignore.The govt historical holdings are dry and totally lacking in much beyond some facts. Lets put a face on these events. Yeah, I was there- 10 Coy, 3 RCR for all 3 ops- Essay,Fencer and Ginger. Larry
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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007, 09:44:12 AM »
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A great idea Larry.. Gov has a habit of sweeping these historic events under the carpet, especially when they get no "bang" out of it.. and make no mistake, it is a part of Cdn Mil History...ranrad
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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2007, 07:52:02 PM »
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 HI KEN , A VERY INTERTESTING TOPIC . I KNOW WHERE JACK WAS IN PART OF THE ''FLQ'' AT LEAST ONE NIGHT IN THE BRIG  IN LONDON AND A SPECIAL RIDE THE NEXT DAY . A AIRPLANE RIDE INSTEAD OF THE BUS,.. WHEN I FOUND OUT HE DENIED IT OF COURSE UNTIL AFTER THE CRISES WHEN HE WAS  GIVEN 7 DAYS  CONFINED TO CAMP. COULDN'T DENY IT THEN. THOUGHT HE WAS LEAVING AT 7 AM BUT WAS WAY LAID TILL EVENING BY THEN HE COULDN'T WALK I GUESS . LOL SO I DON'T THINK HE WILL GET A MEDAL FOR THAT. LOL BUT YOU ARE RIGHT CANADIAN SOLDIERS SEEM TO BE SECOND CLASS  CITIZENS.  YEARS AGO THEY WERE GONE A LOT AND VERY LITTLE MONEY AND PEOPLE LOOKED AT THEM LIKE  SECOND CLASS CITIZENS . BUT REMEMBER A CANADIAN SOLDIER WAS VERY WELL TRAINED  AND REPECTED IN OTHER COUNTRY'S. THE AMERICA'S WERE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OUR FLAGS TO TRAVEL. LOL AND AS FAR AS THE BARS IN SOEST I THINK JACK HAD A SHARE IN THEM IF NOT HE SHOULD OF.
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2007, 09:26:54 AM »
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Here's yet another opinion.  Pierre Trudeau called the FLQ Crisis an "apprehended insurrection," which is just about the same thing Sir John A. MacDonald called the Riel Rebellion, for which troops were deployed, medals issued and Battle Honours awarded.  So a case could be made to similarly recognize those who were deployed.  I wasn't, being in Germany at the time. But when I came back in 1972 I was posted to FMCHQ and my PMQ was 600 metres from where they found Pierre Laporte's body.  On the other hand, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and during my infrequent trips to Montreal these days I am amazed at the change --greatly for the better -- in attitude among the Quebecois.  I sense a depth of contentment and pride in both the province and the country that wasn't there in the early 1970.  Personally, I think a medal would be counter-productive but since I wasn't there maybe my opinion shouldn't count.
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