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Tony Giacomelli
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« on: July 04, 2007, 09:57:37 AM »
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Seen a documentry on anti-tank wpns. and they mention the 3.5 rocket launcher ! I believe we had this weapon in the 50's and 60's , I was wondering if any of the old vets have any stories on ths weapon !  Thanks
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 09:12:32 AM »
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Tony, I have fired the 3.5" rocket launcher a number of times while in the army reserves in the late 60's and 70's.  I've even got some super 8 movies of firing the 3.5" on the ranges in Petawawa way back when.  It was a cool weapon !
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2007, 04:07:44 PM »
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Yep..remember the 3.5 rocket launcher well, including the 17 pounder we used in Germany
in 1955/57 as our main anti-tank weapon.  I think we use to haul the 17 pounder around with the Oxford carrier.

Now those who are not familiar with the 17 pounder.......

http://www.nasenoviny.com/17pdrGunEN.html
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 04:26:49 PM »
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Thanks John , very interesting info on the 17 pdr... nice to learn about ...ranrad
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 04:46:07 PM »
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Did a search for the Oxford Carrier.........

http://www.oldcmp.net/Oxford.html
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2007, 07:53:43 PM »
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      Ref.3.5 rocket launcher.As a sec.comd.back in the 50,s I recall not to many guys in the platoon wanted to lug it or the Bren gun around as they were fairly heavy and awkward,especially in the attack maneuvers/.I was lucky as I had a young Newfoundler in my section we called Moose and he could lug that thing around all day like candy,and loved it.He was sure one strong bugger and a great guy.I myself have fired it a few times in practise and even managed to hit an old tank once on the range.You had to watch out for the back blast as it was pretty powerful.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 06:27:27 AM »
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Jerry Robertson here. I fired it in 1970 with the militia before I went Reg Force. It was long and unwieldly. Not something you would want to lug around but no one ever wants to carry anything heavier than their rifle. Hey Al, the guy named moose you mentioned, is he the same one who was murdered in Germany? Ron Green and I visited his grave in Wurl Germany. Ron placed a Canadian flag on his grave. They were buddies.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2007, 10:28:15 AM »
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Hreat info again on the Oxford Carrier.. thanks oncew again for putting it up.. ranrad
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   Hi Jerry
            Thanx for the up-date on Moose.Was unaware of his death.What year did that occur?do you recall.Always pause and contemplate whatever became of some of my old buds fromthe early and mid fifties.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2007, 04:42:12 AM »
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Im not sure Al but Ron Green has posted some pics in here someplace of Mooses grave. Ron placed a flag and a poppy on his grave and on 2 other graves of guys he served with. Hang on I think he was killed in 68, I think thats what someone wrote on another post.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2007, 05:42:53 AM »
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Hi Al the pictures that Jerry is talking about is under the photo challenge section than go to Tombstones - Werl, Germany.

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2007, 12:21:46 PM »
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  Hi Guys
             Jerry & Don,thanks for you updates,and will check this out.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2007, 03:13:37 PM »
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In '62 I was the pl sig of 9 pl C Coy 1RCR, weighed 120lb wet. Carried the 3.5 and the 510set incl spare battery. The 3.5 wasn't heavy, but was cumbersome, the site was on a hinge and made of aluminum, there was no locking mech. or spring to keep the thing out of 'harms way" so it was always snagged on something which bent it. I never saw a round from one even near the target.  BUT, who remembers the 3.2, a Canadian launcher. Cheers, Hugh Conway
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2007, 03:30:42 PM »
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Wasn't 3.5 or 3.2 Electrically  fired.

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2007, 05:05:16 PM »
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   Hi Hugh and Don
                 Hugh,you would remember some of my old buds from C Coy,John MacEnzie,Bob Jones.I was tpt sgt. C Coy 65 then retired 66.Roger Degobeo was coy comd and Wayne Smith was 2i/c,two good officers.Don your right,as I recall,the #2,  hooked up 2 wires from the rocket onto 2 magnetos on side of launcher which created an electric current which in turn when it followed it,s path,fired the rocket.Don,it,s something like that,but it,s been a long time.I know for sure there was one hell of a backblast,and when #1 sqeezed the trigger, #2 made sure his ass was against #1,s
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Hi Al, I remember firing one of them in 1964 it was during depot or just after going to the Battalion, what a rush firing it for the first time scared the crab out of this, than a young Newfoundlander.

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Ah yes, the 3.2 Heller rocket launcher.  A Canadian device, with a beautifully-crafted range-finding sight using a set of optics which required that two images be brought into "coincidence."  For a short time in the very early '60's both weapons were in use but the Heller was eventually dropped from the inventory as the siight as too delicate to handle the treatment of field usage.  And, unlike the 3.5, the launch tube couldn't be broken down and so was too long to be carried in the APC planned for introduction in 1965.

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"#2,  hooked up 2 wires from the rocket onto 2 magnetos on side of launcher which created an electric current which in turn when it followed it,s path,fired the rocket"

I was #2 when the darn thing mis fired, now that was a scary experience for a teenager after watching the others back blast.

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I fired one in 1970 when I was in the militia before going reg force. Fired it at Ipperwash (we all have storeis about that place) and the crap that came out of the front of the tube left me looking like I was bobbing for french fries. As for Ipperwash.....I remember the time a fella stole an APV and terrorized the reserve and the OPP. He returned it and parked and happily left with the police. then got the boot. I wont mention his name.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2007, 06:27:16 PM »
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When I went through the "School of Foot" in 1964-65 we trained on the 3.5" Rocket Launcher.  When we went to Germany in 1965 the 3.2" Heller was in use in 4 CMBG.  The 3.2" RL was far superior and far more accurate due to the coincidence range finder sight that was already mentioned.  A class mate from the RCSofI, named Richardson, who went to the PPCLI depot was killed while acting as range officer on a 3.5" RL range at the PPCLI Depot.  The recruit flinched when he fired, and the rocket struck the ground about 50' in front of the firing point, and the tail fin assembly blew back and hit him in the head.  The 3.2" RL was replaced by the 84mm Carl Gustav in about 1966-67.
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I was in anti-tank 1Rcr in"62 I fired both 3.2 & 3.5 I preferred the 3.5 was quicker to load but I found when fired the rocked moving down the tube forced the tube down was hard to stay on target.B/B was interesting.3.2 was better to keep on target but in a hurry them damn wires were frustrating.In the end give me the "106 recoiless rifle with the "50 cal.sighting.Len
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2007, 09:02:37 AM »
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Tony you never fired the old stovepipe even I was fortunate to get a couple of rounds down range with that
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Re:Heller Rocket launcher..I was on the trial and Eval team in CFB Borden with Cpl John Babaineau,,there was Myself Bruce Smyth,and a couple of more who names escape me..when we where test firing the weapon in Churchill Man{cold weather trial} one blew up and killed 2 RCR Eagle & Duff can,t remeber there first names..it was agood weapon but very un reliable in cold weather.
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Hey Terry ! Glad to see that you came out of hidding ! No I didnt fire the 3.5 but did seeit fired ! But as far as anti-tank wps. go theres nothing better than firing a Carl G first thing in the morning with a hangover ! Just like somebody just punched you in the face ! We had some good times in Germany with Raymond Oquinn and Drew Halpenny ! Keep the faith and Ill see you next year at the reunion !  Pro ! Patria !
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Tony If theres any way I'll be there talked to Dave Blondeau he's back in Regina if your talking to any of the old crew give them my best
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Now here are a few names from the past. If you guys are at the reunion next year, I would love to have a beer or 20 with you, Terry and Dave and about a dozen others.

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