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george burrows
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W W 2 Casualty list. of both Italy and Normand campaigns - army only.
« on: March 30, 2007, 07:01:42 AM »

Stats re WW 2 CASUALTIES
Items Sicily / Italy Normandy (D Day) ------------------ ---------------------------- ---------------------------
1.Date of Invasion: July 10,1943 June 06,1944
2. Months Served in Battle: 22 11
3.troops landedon Inv. day. 180,000 130,000
4. Ships (various sizes)
(Mostly LCT's ) 3,000 5,000
5.Air cover - # planes: 2,500 10,000
6. Paratroops droppeed: not known 23,400 (total allied)
7. Vehicles landed: 15,000 6,000
8. Guns Landed: 1,800 600
9. Killed in action: 5,764 5,021
10 Wounded: 19,486 ) ( 18,444) total casualties,
++++++++++++++++ ++++ ) no breakdown as to wounded, pow.
11 POW 1,041 ---------
12# ofCanadian troops 30,000 45,000
13. # of German Divisions: 20 not available
14. Survivors" Royal Can Reg't, )
Dec. 15 1943,( out of 745) ) 34
estimated infantry soliers who )
survived out of the 34 (above ) 06

As previously mentuioned, I would pass on the Casualty results of the Army for WW 2.
All of the above figures are taken from DND figures available through the Canadian War Museum- Ottawa.

Unfortunately the Normandy figures are not broken down as to specifs such as # wounded and POW's. However, to compare both theatres it can done by adding the Wounded and Pow's of Sicily / Italy together.
You will see why I think and feel that ! st.Corps has been overlooked long enough, and should be recognized now for the FUTURE GENERATIONS HISTORiCAL benefit. If it is not accomplishe before we all die off, it will probably never be recognized.
I may also suggest to each of you who have serves since WW 2 that unless you do the same for your service period,all of your work , pain and suffering will have been for nothing in future history.
If we are proud of what we accomplished in the service, we have to yell to the country to make them understand Thay do NOT have a clue what it is all about.

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 10:09:43 AM »

Well said George and thanks for the great info. Shows without a doubt the historic importance of the Sicily /Italy campaigns. And the note about post WW 2 facts and stories is also important. We, as Cdns tend to brush aside our accomplishments, and usually it is to our own discredit. I hope all will read your thread and get to work on writing down what they have experienced / done over their service careers. Actually ,it is amazing when one gets it down on a piece of paper. Thanks George..ranrad


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Re: W W 2 Casualty list. of both Italy and Normand campaigns - army only.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2007, 06:18:37 AM »

George. Were you aware of this?

D-DAY DODGERS--May 11-13, Orillia, Ont. Jack Scott or Bernie Phelps, 215 Mississaga St. E., Orillia, ON L3V 1W2, 705-325-8442.


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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2007, 06:33:49 AM »

Thanks Mike. Yes I am aware of that . It is the annual meeting of the POW's assoc. they ave been meeting for many years. I have never bothered to join the assoc. because I wasw always away travelling at work ntil I retired and it is a six hour drive (one way) from Windsor. While I do not consider myself old by any means (only 84 now) I do find that long drives arevery tiring when not used to it. If I had been able to go ,I would have several years ago. thanks for the heads up anyway.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2007, 06:42:08 AM »

Thanks ranrad for those kind words. Very much appreciated.
I put them together so that anyone who may contact someone in the Canadian Media ( Papers< Magazines,radio, TV. etc.would have the facts to back up an argument with them about ' FREEDOM OF THE PRESS which they continually espout is their right. However, they seem to forget that THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS is only availabale because 'IT IS THE SOLDIER WHO CREATES THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS'

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2007, 09:19:49 AM »

Well, very well said again George and it seems many DO forget that their freedoms to live so well, have come at the cost to our brothers and sisters....it seems strange how we forget as time goes by, when the enormity of the sacrifices can never be forgotten... perhaps it is partly from the loss to individual families, which of course in both World Wars, affected pretty much everyones family in some close way...thanks for the reminder to all ranrad


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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 01:17:54 PM »

Well said George and I agree with ranrad people do forget that their freedom to live in this country so well, have come at the cost of others so when they forget we can remind him with this.

Only two people have ever offered to die for you. One was Jesus Christ and the other is the Canadian Soldier. One died for your soul, the other died for your freedom."

Please remember our troops and their families need our help and support. Thank every veteran and person in uniform that you come across for their service to our country and their guarantee that our families and theirs can continue to live their lives in Freedom.

God Bless Our Troops!


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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 08:17:14 AM »

Aye Men Jesse. Dead on.


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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 10:12:54 AM »

Hi Jesse

Well said my friend.

Jim


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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 07:28:32 PM »

Hi Jim you look sharp with that stick under your arm. The last time I seen you was in Germany.
Sorry to hear about your heart attack hope your mobile and doing well. Here’s something I’ve been fooling around with
I’ve written and rewritten its still not the way I want. It’s called their soldiers

They are soldiers.

They are soldiers in the Canadian Army. And are trained to be all they can be.

They fight for the freedom of many citizens of Canada. And are ready to meet there fate.

They all volunteer to defend not only the flag, but the citizens of our great country.

Since our country's birth for all these years, they have been trained to be the best on Earth.

Many times are country have went to war. We will be involved in many more.

Generation by generation soldiers continue to enlist. Some of them will go to war and definitely be missed.

Some soldiers will return and some won't. Those who do not, we won't forget and we hope you don't.

Many of them are going to Afghanistan. Some won't be coming back.

They have loved ones they are leaving behind. And will always be in there prayers, hearts and mind.

If they don't make it home safely at the end of the war, just remember they died for your freedom.


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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 08:19:44 PM »

Hi Jesse

Hey I like it! They are soldiers! If you can't put it together, no one will. Pro Patria

Jim

PS It wasn't a heart attack, it was a stroke and I'm fighting back. My wife was in BC and I was alone when it struck. I laid on the floor for nearly 10 hrs. My friend Joe called and I heard the phone ring. Don't ask me how I heard it. I picked it up and then I found out I couldn't talk. Joe said he would phone back and he did. I made a noise mmmm mmmm and I heard him say "I'll call 911". With that I laid back down and passed out again. It was 2 weeks before I remember anything. I stayed in the hospital from 29 Apr to 1 Jul 2004. On Sep 1st I went to Calgary for a month. I can't use my right arm and I have real trouble speaking. I have trouble walking as well, but you know something I'm alive. Pro Patria.

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 09:06:44 PM »

Just keep on fighting Jim my dad had a stroke and it took came five years to get back to normal.
Don’t give up the ghost just keep on fighting, I lost my wife in August after a four-year battle with cancer.

If you ever want to talk about old times there is a one 800-number at the bottom of this page call anytime.
I’m home most of the time accept for tomorrow I will be in Niagara Falls visiting my son and Ernie Wetzel. I hope you and your family have a happy Easter. Pro Patria


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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2007, 09:47:17 AM »

Hi Jesse

After hearing about your dad and your wife, nothing will make me give up. You have had a tough road. I will use the 800 # and if you're going to Ernie's give him the best from me. I hope you and your family enjoy a Happy Easter. Pro Patria

Jim


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